libbeagle != beagle #6

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opened 5 years ago by Ghost · 10 comments
Ghost commented 5 years ago

Kerry is not working on my system because there is no beagle daemon (beagled) to start with.

Beagled as well as other executables (beagle-config, beagle-query, beagle-status) are provided by the beagle source: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/beagle

Libbeagle is meant to work with beagle, but in order to build beagle you need the mono runtime, then you need ndesk-dbus, then ndesk-dbus-glib, etc.

Do you provide beagle in Debian and its dependencies?

Kerry is not working on my system because there is no beagle daemon (beagled) to start with. Beagled as well as other executables (beagle-config, beagle-query, beagle-status) are provided by the beagle source: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/beagle Libbeagle is meant to work with beagle, but in order to build beagle you need the mono runtime, then you need ndesk-dbus, then ndesk-dbus-glib, etc. Do you provide beagle in Debian and its dependencies?
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As far as I know, the Beagle project is dead – there are no packages for the Beagle demon in Debian / Ubuntu. In the build-deps for Debianu / Ubuntu we only maintan libbeagle, but as you rightly pointed out, it doesn't seem to be sufficient.

Because the Beagle project is created in Mono, we certainly don't want to maintain it as additional build-deps. Therefore, I believe the Kerry application is suitable for removal.

As far as I know, the Beagle project is dead – there are no packages for the Beagle demon in Debian / Ubuntu. In the build-deps for Debianu / Ubuntu we only maintan libbeagle, but as you rightly pointed out, it doesn't seem to be sufficient. Because the Beagle project is created in Mono, we certainly don't want to maintain it as additional build-deps. Therefore, I believe the Kerry application is suitable for removal.
Ghost commented 5 years ago
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This will set up things with bugzilla bug: 2331 then.

This will set up things with bugzilla bug: [2331](https://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2331) then.
Owner

It seems that Tracker could be considered as a successor to Beagle and tdeio-find could serve here instead of Kerry.

It seems that [Tracker](https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker) could be considered as a successor to Beagle and [tdeio-find](../tdeio-find) could serve here instead of Kerry.
Owner

Currently libbeagle cannot be built on Debian testing (Bullseye) because the GTK2 library has been removed from the distribution. We must either disable python-beagle in libbeagle, which is dependent on pygtk, or completely stop building libbeagle and kerry.

Since kerry is unusable without a beagle demon, and nobody minds it so far, nobody seems to be using kerry. Therefore, nothing should prevent drop kerry and libbeagle.

Currently libbeagle cannot be built on Debian testing (Bullseye) because the GTK2 library has been removed from the distribution. We must either disable python-beagle in libbeagle, which is dependent on pygtk, or completely stop building libbeagle and kerry. Since kerry is unusable without a beagle demon, and nobody minds it so far, nobody seems to be using kerry. Therefore, nothing should prevent drop kerry and libbeagle.
Ghost commented 4 years ago
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Therefore, nothing should prevent drop kerry and libbeagle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHue-HaXXzg

>Therefore, nothing should prevent drop kerry and libbeagle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHue-HaXXzg
Owner

I agree with Slavek above that we can drop libbeagle and kerry since it seems not used/useful anymore.

The question is whether to drop it from R14.0.8 or from R14.1.0

I agree with Slavek above that we can drop libbeagle and kerry since it seems not used/useful anymore.<br/> The question is whether to drop it from R14.0.8 or from R14.1.0
Owner

In any case, I stopped building libbeagle and kerry for Bullseye and SID for both master and r14.0.x.

The question is whether to provide packages for other versions of distributions, although none of them provides a beagle daemon => kerry cannot work anyway. Therefore, I do not see a problem when we want to drop kerry even for the r14.0.x branch.

In any case, I stopped building libbeagle and kerry for Bullseye and SID for both master and r14.0.x. The question is whether to provide packages for other versions of distributions, although none of them provides a beagle daemon => kerry cannot work anyway. Therefore, I do not see a problem when we want to drop kerry even for the r14.0.x branch.
Owner

In that case let's drop kerry and libbeagle for R14.0.x too and for all distros.

In that case let's drop kerry and libbeagle for R14.0.x too and for all distros.
Owner

In that case let's drop kerry and libbeagle for R14.0.x too and for all distros.

In that case let's drop kerry and libbeagle for R14.0.x too and for all distros.
Owner

kerry removed from TDE.

kerry removed from TDE.
MicheleC closed this issue 4 years ago
MicheleC added this to the R14.0.8 release milestone 4 years ago
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